Unlike the "anchors of hope cast again and again" in Black River Fishing, Jiangxi Jump skate shop owner and skate photographer Lao Mu's fishing, while demanding, isn't heavy. As he puts it, that electric feeling is addictive. In this feature, we'll dive deep into fishing with him, exploring a skater's life beyond the board.
和《黑河钓事》里，“一次次抛下希望的锚”不同，江西 Jump 滑板店老板，滑板摄影师老木的钓鱼虽然要花费很多精力，但并不沉重。如他所说，那种触电般的感觉令人上瘾。我们本期就和他一起从头聊钓鱼，看看滑板人在滑板以外的生活方式。
🎙️ In your own words, what is "fishing"?
Fishing is actually a super complex system, but it can also be simple – one rod can catch anything. Technically, there are really only two types: using real bait or using artificial lures. For me, fishing is a lot like skateboarding; there are many different ways to play, and it's definitely a lifestyle.
🎙️ 用你的方式介绍下什么是“钓鱼”？
钓鱼其实是一个非常复杂的系统，说简单也简单，一根杆其实什么都能钓。简单从钓鱼技术上来说，其实就两种，一种是用真的食物钓鱼，一种是用假饵来钓鱼。对我来说，钓鱼其实跟滑板也很像，有很多不同玩法，也是一种生活方式。
🎙️ Is there a so-called "pecking order" in fishing?
I think it's just that people have different fishing methods, and the time, effort, and money required vary, so I don't think there's a pecking order.
For instance, fly fishing is considered the most difficult. You tie a tiny fly to the line and cast it out. The casting technique is super challenging, and it's dangerous in waist-deep streams where you're swinging the lure overhead.
Because fly fishing requires you to be in the water constantly, you need a lot of gear: wading boots, wading pants, sealed waterproof bags, and so on. If you fall in, you also need emergency gear. So, a full setup usually costs at least a few thousand yuan, often tens of thousands. That's why fly fishing is very expensive and technically demanding, placing it at the top of the "pecking order." But here in China, the main methods are Taiwanese-style fishing, lure fishing, and rock fishing.
Taiwanese-style fishing involves baiting a spot to attract fish, then sitting and watching. When the float sinks, you quickly reel in to hook the fish. This method takes a lot of time, so younger people prefer lure fishing. Rock fishing is about baiting with meat or shrimp, letting it sink to the bottom. It doesn't use a float, and you can bait the spot or not. Lure fishing, as the name suggests, uses artificial lures to trick fish into biting. It's more technically challenging because fish can actually smell. But lure fishing also requires physical exertion, as you're constantly moving through mountains, forests, and fields, which makes it very popular with young people.
🎙️ 钓鱼会有所谓的“鄙视链”吗？
我觉得钓鱼就是大家的钓法不一样，所需要的时间精力和金钱成本也不一样，所以我并不觉得有鄙视链。
比如难度最高的就是飞钓，也叫飞蝇钓法。就是前面绑一个很小的飞蝇，把它抛出去，抛投技术是最难的，在（及腰的）溪水里也危险，假饵要在头上挥舞。
飞钓因为要在水里一直待着，所以需要的装备也特别多，比如要有涉水鞋、涉水裤，密封防水包等等。一旦摔在水里出危险了，还要有急救装备。所以这一身装备，通常少说几千块，多的就几万块（一套）。
所以飞钓非常的贵，然后它技术要求又高，就在所谓的“鄙视链”顶端。但我们现在国内主要就是台钓，然后路亚钓，还有就是矶钓。
台钓呢，就是打窝，你放很多饵料，丢到窝里，让鱼聚到那窝里面，然后坐在那里看，如果浮漂沉下去了，就快速提竿刺鱼，这样把鱼诱进来。这种钓法需要大量时间，所以年轻人更多青睐路亚钓法。矶钓就是挂一些肉啊虾啊什么的，沉在水底去钓鱼。它没有浮漂，可以打窝也可以不打窝。然后路亚，是英文 Lure（诱惑，引诱）的英译。鱼其实是可以嗅出味道的，路亚用假的东西骗鱼上钩，技术上就更难了。不过路亚需要体力，要游走在山林田野间，所以非常受年轻人喜欢。
🎙️ How much fishing gear do you have? Do you use different gear for different waters?
I have a lot of fishing gear, maybe two or three hundred thousand yuan worth. The gear I use depends on what I'm trying to catch. It's pretty similar to skateboarding: you have different wheels for cruising, street skating, bowl skating, different decks, and so on. Fishing rods are the same. You choose the rod, bait, and even whether you need a boat, based on the water body and the types of fish there. For example, deep-water fish, fish hiding in obstacles, or aggressive fish all require different equipment.
🎙️ 你有多少钓鱼装备？是不是不同水域用的不一样？
我自己的钓鱼装备的话，很多，可能有二三十万。这些装备其实是根据不同需求来的。跟滑板比较相似，你要有刷街的轮，街式轮，玩碗的轮，不同板面等等。鱼竿也一样。它要根据水域和这里不同种类的鱼来选择鱼竿啊，饵料啊，甚至需不需要船。比如深水的鱼，躲在障碍里的鱼，鱼有没有攻击性，这都要用不同装备。
🎙️ What are the most important pieces of equipment?
For me right now, the most important is my sonar fish finder. It tells me if there are fish in an area, and what kind, so I know what gear to bring. And my boat is crucial too.
🎙️ 哪些设备是最重要的？
目前对于我来说，最重要的是声纳鱼探。它可以让我知道这一块有没有鱼，是什么鱼，然后我就知道要带什么装备。然后就是我的船很重要。
🎙️ For beginners, how can they start fishing on a budget?
Choosing gear depends on what fish you're targeting, so the first step is to search on social media to see what local people are catching and where. Then, pick similar gear to theirs.
For example, if you want to catch topmouth culter, you can buy a cheap long-casting rod and a spinning reel. You can get a pretty professional setup for maybe five to six hundred yuan. If your local area only has small creeks and bridges where you can only catch small fish, then buy an L-heavy micro-lure rod. A professional micro-lure setup costs between 400 and 800 yuan.
If I were to recommend, I'd suggest starting with micro-lures (for small fish). Buy some small spoons, like 3g, 5g, or 7g, pair it with an L-heavy micro-lure rod and a spinning reel. You can get everything for around 600 yuan. It's not a waste of money, it's fun, and it's easy to get into.
🎙️ 那对新手来说呢，如何低成本开始钓鱼？
因为选装备取决于你钓什么鱼，所以第一步就是社交平台上搜一下，本地人都是钓的什么鱼，在哪个地方钓。然后你就选和他差不多的装备。
比如说，要翘嘴就去买便宜的远投杆，纺车轮，可能五六百块就可以配一套比较专业的。如果你们本地只有小溪小桥洞，只能钓一些小鱼的话，那就买 L硬度的微物杆，一套专业的微物装备在 400~800 块之间。
如果我推荐的话，我建议可以先从微物（小鱼）开始，买一些小亮片呀，3g、5g、7g的这种亮片，配一根L硬度的微物杆，纺车轮，600 块左右就可以全部搞定，不浪费钱，很好玩，很轻松。
🎙️ You told me last time that you have a fishing group. Who's in it?
Yeah, I started a fishing group for Chinese skateboarders. It includes people like Baobao Liu, Luffy, Xiao Hei, Chen Yu, Johnny Tang, Wang Fei, Yuhang... basically, all the lure fishermen and anglers from our scene are in there.
Our group started with just a few friends meeting up to fish and gradually expanded. We started pulling in skateboarders who fish from all over the country.
🎙️ 上次你告诉我，你们有钓鱼的群，里面都有谁？
对，我建了一个中国滑板人的钓鱼群，群里面有宝宝刘，路飞，小黑，陈宇，Johnny Tang，王飞，宇航……就是我们圈内的这些玩路亚的、钓鱼的什么的，基本都在这里面。
我们这个群也是从最早三三两两约着钓鱼的朋友，逐渐扩大，开始把各地玩滑板的钓鱼佬拉到群里。🎙️ 新手能加入你们的群找当地钓友吗？
钓鱼佬其实挺平和的，你只要不抢他的鱼，其他的都好说。你问啥都答啥，都不会藏着掖着。
但凡你有什么不懂的，只要在群里面问，大家都会非常踊跃的教你，会给你推荐各种各样的好的装备，特别热情。你也可以在里面找钓友，分享装备配置，分享钓鱼的地点等等。
🎙️ Can beginners join your group to find local fishing buddies?
Anglers are actually pretty chill. As long as you don't steal their fish, everything else is cool. They'll answer any questions you have and won't hold back.
If you don't understand anything, just ask in the group, and everyone will be super eager to teach you and recommend all sorts of good gear. They're really enthusiastic. You can also find fishing buddies there, share gear setups, and even share fishing spots.
🎙️ 你第一次钓鱼的故事是什么？钓过最大的鱼是？
我第一次钓鱼的话，先问了YYY，我说Y哥，钓鱼是什么感觉？他说比 xx 还爽。我说有这么厉害，你给我推荐一套装备。
不过他推荐的都是两三千的装备，我当时觉得太贵了，就买了一套五六百块的相似装备先玩。
最开始钓了半个月，一条鱼都没中过。后来通过当地的钓友和渔具店告诉我哪里有鱼，用什么装备。然后我开始每天早上五点起来钓鱼，连续钓了18 天，第18天早上，中了第一条，是斑鳜。
🎙️ How do you handle the fish you catch? Throw them back? Eat them? Sell them?
When I first started fishing, the fish I caught weren't very big, maybe half a catty to a catty (approx. 0.5-1 pound). These fish had too many bones and didn't taste great, so I'd throw them back.
Later, I gradually started catching fish that were three or four catties – hey, that's pretty big! So I'd take them home to eat. Now I catch even more fish. Sometimes I give them to relatives, sometimes I sell them. On a good day, I can sell for one or two thousand yuan; on a slow day, a few hundred.
🎙️ 钓的鱼怎么处理，丢回去？吃掉？卖掉？
以前我开始钓鱼的时候，因为钓的鱼都不大，可能半斤一斤啊。这种鱼刺多又不好吃，我就扔回去。
后来，慢慢钓了三四斤，哎，还挺大的，就会带回去吃。现在钓的鱼就更多了，有时候送亲戚，有时候拿来卖。多的时候的话，一天能卖个一两千，少的时候也能卖个几百块。
🎙️ What's the most similar thing between fishing and skateboarding? Fishing and skateboarding are both addictive; they're both a lifestyle. Once you've hooked a fish, you really miss that lightning-fast sensation. Skateboarding also has the satisfaction and allure of landing a trick.
And they both require a lot of time. However, skateboarding relies more on skill, with luck coming second; for fishing, luck can account for most of it. But both activities require a lot of time for practice, learning, and preparation.
There's one more, really similar commonality: skateboarding has 'last try,' and fishing always has 'one last cast.'
🎙️ 钓鱼和滑板最像的地方是什么？
钓鱼和滑板，都是令人上瘾的，都是一种生活方式。钓鱼一旦中过鱼之后，就会很想念那种闪电般的触感，滑板也有成动作的成就感以及魅力。
然后就是它们都需要花费大量的时间。不过滑板技术更重要，其次是运气；钓鱼其实运气能占绝大部分。但是两个运动它都需要大量的时间去练习、学习、整理。
还有一个最像最像的共同点，滑板有 last try，钓鱼也永远有最后一杆。
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